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Road Haulage Crisis?

Robutnua

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Nov 28, 2018
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After this "unofficial" trucker protest in Dublin today Joe Duffy had truckers on LiveLine who were at the protest and who mainly supported it.

TBH its something I have not had my eye on BUT the sheer desperation coming from these drivers and haulage owners was palpable. In the main the cost of fuel now making there businesses untenable and a good few said come January we are looking at the real possibility of the haulage sector collapsing here - empty shelves, no medicines etc.

All joe was concerned with of course was will there be another protest discommoding people in Dublin. In fairness one of the drivers chimed in and said they didnt know BUT how would he feel if all the truckers in protest just stayed at home for a week instead .. how would the economy do then? It is sheer desperation

It also appears the Dept of Transport minister - Ryan is pretty much ignoring all this and doing fck all, plus a whole pile of other legacy issues going way back that others here might have a better idea of.

It appears this is another sector that does work we absolutely need in the background but most people dont pay much notice to them .. once its working .. for them

Yes of course we had the call to Claire Byrne earlier from a woman whos elder mum had appointment cancelled at hospital because they were driving in and got delayed. Its deferred to next week. This one event is pretty much what Joe was mainly concerned about and not the way bigger picture of potential collapse of the haulage industry here in new year especially if Diesel / Fuel keeps climbing which seems to be the case TBH .. today maybe the canary in the coal mine

Seems to also be deep dissatisfaction with the Road Haulage assoc. Few on show had stopped there subs. Plus insurance is gone completely out of control costs wise

Duffys angle seems to be the country has gone through and is going through huge trauma last 2 years and doesnt need these protests in Dublin now, could they maybe wait was the implication. Erm if he listened properly he might hear that many may not be around in the new year by the sounds of it
 
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Jaysus

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Here’s an interesting solution to the current (temporary, by the way) fuel cost crisis:
Just stop taxing fuel for the interim until things settle down a bit.

OPEC is a literal monopoly, and places who can’t control the cost of oil suffer. Eliminating the tax on it, and its products removes some of the power OPEC has.
 

Derryman

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Feb 17, 2019
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Here’s an interesting solution to the current (temporary, by the way) fuel cost crisis:
Just stop taxing fuel for the interim until things settle down a bit.

OPEC is a literal monopoly, and places who can’t control the cost of oil suffer. Eliminating the tax on it, and its products removes some of the power OPEC has.
And this concession can be tailored to benefit targeted industries.
 
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And this concession can be tailored to benefit targeted industries.
Thought this was ruled out by MM due to EU taxation rules. So we would need EU support on this. They will all be feeling the pinch.

The other facet is that haulage is a tough job, with a labour crisis as a result. I know a HGV driver who has said that some firms have been hit with 30% pay rises recently.

This is not workers gouging employers, merely righting a wrong.

IMHO, this is not going to be fixed by taxation, although that may be required to stabilise pricing, and comes with many issues wrt fraud.

Moreso, we need to treat hauliage as a very necessary industry, which has to be managed at a sustainable capacity level. Maybe some goods need to have the logistics element taxed more heavily..

Also, AMAZON and Co. What volume of utter unnecessary and unsustainable shite is shipped?
 
Nov 29, 2018
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Thought this was ruled out by MM due to EU taxation rules. So we would need EU support on this. They will all be feeling the pinch.

The other facet is that haulage is a tough job, with a labour crisis as a result. I know a HGV driver who has said that some firms have been hit with 30% pay rises recently.

This is not workers gouging employers, merely righting a wrong.

IMHO, this is not going to be fixed by taxation, although that may be required to stabilise pricing, and comes with many issues wrt fraud.

Moreso, we need to treat hauliage as a very necessary industry, which has to be managed at a sustainable capacity level. Maybe some goods need to have the logistics element taxed more heavily..

Also, AMAZON and Co. What volume of utter unnecessary and unsustainable shite is shipped?
Other EU countries have frozen the cost of fuel/electricity/gas etc. The problem in Ireland is that power to do this lies with the anti motor vehicle lunatics of the Green party.

Without the hauliers they would be forced to live on whatever locally grown vegetables are in season. By local I mean within less than 10 miles.

How will they survive with not an avocado to be found in
Clonskeagh or Greystones, nutloaf will disappear from menus, as for almond milk and vegan cheese....
 
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Jaysus

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Sep 6, 2021
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Other EU countries have frozen the cost of fuel/electricity/gas etc. The problem in Ireland is that power to do this lies with the anti motor vehicle lunatics of the Green party.

Without the hauliers they would be forced to live on whatever locally grown vegetables are in season. By local I mean within less than 10 miles.

How will they survive with not an avocado to be found in
Clonskeagh or Greystones, nutloaf will disappear from menus, as for almond milk and vegan cheese....
The avocados will be cycled in from global warming ravaged Wexford.

Eamonn and the lads are busily coating Brennan’s Batches to make nutloaf out of them.

Almond milk and vegan cheese is being harvested from all those window boxes installed last year.
 
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