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The UK, a failed state?

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hollandia

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Coming back to this theme on foot of last week's elections,

In Scotland, we've seen a majority for Independence supporting parties. We've been the Tories lose seats in terms of constituencies (to replace them from the list - which is, when you understand the Scottish electoral system, a failure in terms of elections in Scotland, even though they ended with the same number of seats).

In Wales, we've seen Labour win half the seats in Senedd Cymru.

In terms of cities and population centres we've seen Labour success in terms of Mayoral elections, not least in London, winning 13 of 13 Mayoral elections. We saw similar with the Brexit vote - population centres voted to remain, while rural areas voted to leave.

It is very clear that politically the country is split and that's not healing.
The UK is balkanised at present.

England - Tory
Wales - Labour
Scotland - SNP
NI - er, different again...
 

ruserious

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The UK is balkanised at present.

England - Tory
Wales - Labour
Scotland - SNP
NI - er, different again...
Basically, Britain is Maggie Simpson.

 

MOTS

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The UK is balkanised at present.

England - Tory
Wales - Labour
Scotland - SNP
NI - er, different again...
The UK is simply England writ large, - dominated, controlled, run by and serving exclusively - the best interests of a narrow class of the English Establishment which is why it cannot possibly survive indefinitely without fundamental reform which is an increasingly unlikely direction of travel particularly in the wake of the Brexit FUBAR.
 
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On failed states...

When a state failure starts the following occurs:

"corrupt autocrats and their equally corrupt associates usually have few
incentives to arrest their state's slide since they themselves find clever
ways to benefit from impoverishment and misery.
As foreign and
domestic investment dries up, jobs vanish, and per capita incomes fall,
the mass of citizens in an imperilled state see their health, educational,
and logistical entitlements melt away. Food and fuel shortages occur.

Privation and hunger follow, especially if a climatic catastrophe intervenes."


(From Robert I. Rotberg, “Failed States, Collapsed States, Weak States: Causes and Indicators,” in Robert I.
Rotberg (ed.), State Failure and State Weakness in a Time of Terror, Washington D.C.: Brookings
Institution Press (2003))

While written with reference to classical 3rd world failed states, there are distinct echoes (if not exact parallels of course) to what is occurring in the U.K. at the moment. A state that is experiencing fuel/food shortages, with a leadership that has used the coronavirus to enrich its friends (having found "clever ways to benefit from impoverishment and misery"), that has a leader who relies on "donors" to pay for things (flat "refurbishment"), and where "health and educational entitlements" are melting away is clearly showing some signs of being a failing state...if not yet a failed one.

Again, hyperbole perhaps, but the coincidences are striking given what we are seeing in our neighbouring state.
The political dysfunction in the U.K. appears to be accelerating, with each day seeming to bring yet more examples of general governmental incompetence, failures in planning, logistics, etc. If the fuel crisis results in critical food/medicine shortages the outcome may be unpredictable, and its ability to affect Ireland unknown. If I were in government, I would be watching what is occurring in the U.K. with some concern, if not yet alarm.
 
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hollandia

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I suspect the system in the Republic is as bad or nearly as bad - was discussed on another thread:

I wonder what could have happened in 2008 to cause the loss of ten thousand hospital beds?


Among the main areas to be hit have been funding for staff, chronic delays in infrastructure, cuts to discretionary medical cards, home help supports and increased prescription and hospital charges for patients.
There has also been a significant drop in the number of inpatients, day cases and outpatients for hospitals, indicating the Government’s key policy of greater access to care is failing to be met.
Despite claims to the contrary by the Department of Health, researchers said the reality points to the health service increasingly having to “do less with less”.
 
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